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For being here. >> good evening. >> i wanted to talk to you about this because i feel like i need a wonk check. is there some quantitative economic philosophy that says the reverse robinhood is good for the economy? >> if you don't have poor people paying income tax, they will want to vote themselves larger and larger shares of government spending because they won't be paying for it. they will see government benefits and as such go to the polls saying we went more medicare, medicaid and food stamps. it's a political economy viewpoint. i think it's important to say it isn't true. when they keep...

People. you would they are ignoring people, but they're not. they are seeking out ways to make poor people more poor using the tax code. joining us now is ezra cline. it's great to see you. >> good evening. >> i wanted to talk to you about this because i feel like i need a wonk check. is there some kwaquantitative analysis. >> if you don't have poor people paying income tax, they will want to vote themselves larger and larger shares of government spending because they won't be paying for it. they will see government benefits as free and say we want more medicare, medicaid and food stamps. it's...