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>> part of the problem is mar-a-lago is a perfect example. i hate this word normalize, but the existence of mar-a-lago itself is a scandal. it should not be the case that private citizens can pay several $100,000 to personally lobby the president. how many times has someone walked up to him and gone you know, mr. president, i have this liquid natural gas facility we're looking to build in maryland. it must be happen all the time. and yet that is background noise. i think there is a real question of how does that, the basic ambient corruption at these sort of background issues become more acute...

But they've really come back greedier than ever and less reformed than ever. and it's a really potent issue. >> part of the problem is mar-a-lago is a perfect example. i hate this word normalize, but the existence of mar-a-lago itself is a scandal. it should not be the case that private citizens can pay several $100,000 to personally lobby the president. how many times has someone walked up to him and gone you know, mr. president, i have this liquid natural gas facility we're looking to build in maryland. it must be happen all the time. and yet that is background noise. i think there is a real...