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Saying it is more likely than not that michael cohen would publicly testify before a different committee or different body. >> yes. >> before february 28th? >> and very specifically the level of cooperation and trust that he has developed with chairman elijah cummings who is a man for almost a half century, leader of the civil rights movement, a minister in his church in baltimore, i've heard him preach, and somebody who empathizes with michael cohen's fear and his family's fear when the president of the united states launches all the power of the presidency, the bully in the bully pulpit usin...

Calendar in front of the house committee. just yesterday he pulled the plug on the president of the united states and his lawyer, rudolph giuliani, against his family. here's some of what we're talking about. >> his father-in-law is a very rich guy. his father-in-law, i thought, was the guy that was the primary focus. what did dough? did he make a deal to keep his father-in-law out? did he make a deal to keep his wife, supposedly, maybe i'm wrong but you can check it. did he make a deal to keep his wife out of trouble? >> we are so distorting the system of justice just to get donald trump. it ...

Did he make a deal to keep his wife out of trouble? >> we are so distorting the system of justice just to get donald trump. it will hurt us. >> it's okay to go after the father-in-law. >> of course it is. if the father-in-law is a criminal. >> cohen's legal adviser is calling those comments criminal. >> this is classic mob technique, to send a signal to the individual who mr. trump has called a rat for telling the truthful now, that word rat comes directly out of organized crime. it is also a signal to other inmates that the family of michael cohen has been called out by donald trump. once aga...