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logs for staff and regular visitors into and out of the west wing. president biden for his part not talking about it. deferring all questions to the secret service. listen. [shouted questions] >> gillian: mark morgan says someone could be intentionally hindering the investigation. he tells the daily mail, quote, they know who comes in and when they come in, they're checked and are video cameras everywhere? are they able to talk to the people they would need to without any roadblocks? let's bring in mark meredith joining us from the white house. tell us what you know. >> good morning ...

Why mr. bates believes the hatch act is relevant. richard painter says this is the most ridiculous invocation of the hatch act i've ever heard. what do you think? >> it's difficult when the american people are looking -- we have a legitimacy problem with the government. very few people trust the government is doing the right thing or they can trust it in general. that's the kind of answer that moves into the strange word salad framework that is affecting more than just the vice president. the american people want answers. we know how it would be -- how we would be dealt with in a similar situa...