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Words and life. >> chef? >> yeah. the fluency with words. totally afwree. no matter what time of day, whatever situation, over drinks, sober, just the greatest like word smith. asked me like what is he like outside of the camera? he's just what he's like on the camera. and that's the beauty of him. he's unapologetically honest and a lot of people respect him for that. i respect him for that. it all gives us courage to be ourselves and be individuals that's what really radiates from him. what we get through tv, a sense of courage. >> james, he heaped high praise on you when your book came out. ...

Again and again, that's when things get stinky. >> yes, it's a defense, it's not a good defense. i've tried to look at both sides of the coin on this one. on the one side of the coin, i do think the president and his attorneys are going to be able to claim that during that meeting the president provided information. he wasn't at the trump tower meeting himself. he was provided information. he helped word smith a document or a narrative that was then put out and, hey, he was just n the other side of the coin, i'd rather be the prosecutor on this one. because it does seem like a transparent atte...

Trump ally roger stone. here's something he said about the president and turnover in the administration. >> donald trump cannot be managed, will not be managed. he is his own word smith, his own strategist, and he's good at it. there's got to be a high burnout rate of anyone who tries to get in the way of this man. he's like theodore roosevelt in that sense. he is impetuous. he is bombastic, and he loves america. and he has a vision of what he wants to do. >> back now with one of the directors of the documentary, get me roger stone, which is fascinating. also jim sciutto and carrie cordero. ji...

Pompeo who is skeptical of the nuclear deal is positive develop. the president surrounding himself with men and women who he trust and who share more of his anti interventionist world view. >> mike pompeo sees him as -- >> indeed. i have been critical of mike pompeo about that. but that aside, i do think he shares more of the president's foreign policy views on north korea, on the iran nuclear deal than his predecessor. >> what do you think about general john kelly, do you think he has a place in the white house? >> look. donald trump cannot be managed, will not be managed. he is his own manag...

>> sean: well-said. what is your relationship like with the president? a lot -- i've always said donald trump is his own man. anyone that tells you any different doesn't know donald trump. he makes his own mind up. >> that is entirely true. there's no karl rove in trumpland. he's his own strategist and word smith. aim loyal supporter of the president. i think he's doing an amazing job given the deep state and two-party opposition to him. two million new jobs? a growing economy? extraordinary. >> sean: this is personal between you and me. you said once that was lobbying to be in the trump admin...