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Challenges get made in court, whether a court has jurisdiction, and how they would be prosecuted. and so, that's one of the great mysteries about the law. now, i believe that they have at least so the satisfaction of the trump people worked out solutions to these issues. but you raise a valid question who going to bring it in, how they going able to win a case of that. >> when you said solution you place invisible quotations marks around it. as a non-lawyer, you lawyers use word standing. who has standing to bring a case against donald trump. >> i don't believe a case like this has ever been b...

On this student loan interest rate. obviously it's an important issue in that some of the new numbers show people owe more on student loans than credit card debt. is that still a hot topic >> it's still a big topic, tamron, because as you say the volume of student loans is so huge. and a lot of this new volume is not -- not students as we think of them. they are not 20-year-old students going to college. a lot of people who are older, who are in their 30s or 40s who have gone back to school and who have incurred a lot of student debt. these people vote more often than younger students do, so t...