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Taxes. >> what about people who have >> while the part san debate rages on in washington, i want cheapest insurance plan he can retirement funds invested in the private health insurance industry. what happens to them? to understand how the issue of buy. >> so there is nothing more >> you kn health care is playing out in american than being a cowboy? the lives of every day >> no, there's not. >> would you say that not investments in health care or someplace else. insuring a cowboy is some people are free to invest americans. un-american? >> you know, it's just -- i their money and make money an...

Biden himself is diagnostic of the filibuster. he does not cling to it particularly. they know it's going to be difficult and jake, to joe's point if you have a conversation with sinema about the idea of something that is not as clear as getting rid of the filibuster but as one of the other work arounds and you raise the debt limit as a possible example on how to do that, is it something she will be open to do here or sitting down a red line here? >> if you talk about some of the workarounds is the frequent filibuster. it's the most common work around for this. not lowering the threshold which...

And so, that is such an important issue. and joe manchin has been lobbied non-stop on this issue. and it is a very big open question whether or not, as you said, because the compromise bill that he says he put forward got no republican support at all earlier this week. once this -- these two bills are done, whether or not that is going to change in terms of approach, you can bet that from the activists out there to constituents of every other democrat and people who talk to the white house constantly that that is going to be a big, big priority. i just want to say i think i said earlier that k...

They cast are not overturned. and so, that is such an important issue. and joe manchin has been lobbied non-stop on this issue. and it is a very big open question whether or not, as you said, because the compromise bill that he says he put forward got no republican support at all earlier this week. once this -- these two bills are done, whether or not that is going to change in terms of approach, you can bet that from the activists out there to constituents of every other democrat and people who talk to the white house constantly that that is going to be a big, big priority. i just want to say...

Will they play a role in making it easier to vote, protect this fundamental right or continue to be obstructionists and put democrats in a position where there is no alternative but to find another path forward. it is up to them, these are bipartisan proposals talking about people's fundamental rights. >>-- manchin and sanders -- >> the words, i would say the president has been in touch with both senators, not through immediate words, but to better understand the path forward and what is -- what are priorities to each of them. he will continue to play that role. >> two quick ones on policy. se...