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Story of th the demise of the twinki. who better to ask, steve moore, and matt mccall. this is a great american franchise, right? they have 18, i think -- maybe more than that patents in terms of original products. steve, whose fault is this. >> you know what is sad, i'm old enough to remember those ads. this is really -- martha: you'll have to tell us about them some time. >> those black-and-white ads. i think this is a tragedy. you're talking about as many as 10,000 american workers losing their jobs. what i find mystifying is how the workers would go on strike against a company that is abou...

>> harris: iconic company that sold sugary snacks to generations of wide eyed kids today announced it's closing its doors for good. laying off thousands of americans in the process. hostess, the maker of twinkies and wonder bread suspended operations at all of its pantries making good on a threat to shut down if striking workers refused to go back to work. those employees protesting pay cuts that hostess imposed after it filed for bankruptcy protection in january. the ceo says the company could not survive an extended strike. hostess asking a bankruptcy judge for permission now to sell itself ...

To have expertise in the department of defense. >> he is doing what? doing negotiating contracts? oo collective bargaining mediation, arbitration, talking about how sharp the pencils need to be. the size of the erasers, the number of paper clips. >> you have no evidence that that -- they have these work rules but you are exaggerating. >> in the reports that are on a voluntary basis the office of personnel management says to each agency with want you to report every year how much time was spent how much official time and the total amount of money that was exhausted. like in 2010 it was $130 m...

Long and get full salary within the department of defense. >> he is just doing what? >> mediation, arbitration, how sharp the pencils need to be. the number of paper clips. [laughter] john: they have work rules and. >> with the office of personnel management says we want you to report every year and the total amount of money that was exhausted. in $2,010,130,000,000. the total amount of wasted money so the unions cancer

Long and get full salary within the department of defense. >> he is just doing what? >> mediation, arbitration, how sharp the pencils need to be. the number of paper clips. [laughter] john: they have work rules and. >> with the office of personnel management says we want you to report every year and the total amount of money that was exhausted. in $2,010,130,000,000. the total amount of wasted money so the unions cancer