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Cross-examination. his securing of an extremely well-paying job on the board of a corrupt ukrainian company burisma highlights the precise corruption problem in ukraine that concerned not only president trump but all of the witnesses we've interviewed so far. the democrats have dismissed questions about biden's role at burisma as conspiracy theories. yet, they're trying to impeach president trump for having expressed concerns about the company. if we could hear from biden, we could ask him how he got his position. what did he do to earn his lavish salary? and what light could he shed on corrup...

I'm sure this is the one area where you'll see in congress people saying this money should be there. >> right. >> this has been -- this has been a staple of americans' policy with respect to ukraine for decades. for democrats and republicans. it's really important. in fact, i would say republicans are even more vociferous about the fact that you need to support ukraine. so it's hard to just do this. and one of the things i think we will hear this afternoon or evening is you will hear a number of people saying what happened? how did it magically stop? and the republicans really need to come up ...

Clear what i had to do and i went along with it. now, it's not quite the same thing as michael cohen who completely turned on the president. said he was a bad person. gordon sondland wasn't, you know, denouncing the president or anything like that. but he's a credible figure and even the president today did not take issue with gordon sondland's credibility. he simply focused on the one part of the testimony he thought was helpful and basically tried to ignore the rest. >> well, it was six hours long so i imagine there will be questions about some of the rest of it. let me ask you about his des...

If anything else happens, you know i'll be here in front of those cameras and bring it to us. let's look ahead to these witnesses that we're about to hear from. i mean, they really get into the mechanics of how government works. and they will expose -- i mean, i think something that donald trump doesn't understand and you were part of investigation that -- that -- that certainly had to take into consideration what he does and doesn't understand. that -- that was referenced in different sections of the report. but getting away with it was probably the hard part if his idea was to extort ukraine...

Country on russia's border. in that plot, he implicated the president of the united states, saying he directed it. rudy giuliani, who was one of his operators. the secretary of state and said the vice president had knowledge. what -- what's the impact of testimony like that? >> obviously, it's a big day and it's a big day because gordon sondland had not testified to a lot of this in his prior close-door deposition. he came forward and basically offered a new version of events only after other witnesses had basically offered theirs, conflicting with his account. and he felt that there was no ch...