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Pluses and mine -- debate on the plus and minuses of the debate. brand-new developments in the budget standoff in wisconsin. the state's democratic party just filed an ethics complaint against governor walker in the wake of comments he made during a prank phone call two weeks ago. they claim he violated an ethics rule in taking this call, this prank phone call and what he said on it. already folks are saying the state is battling potentially thousands in worker layoffs, and teacher strikes and so on, and this is what they are worried about, a prank call? mike tobin live from madison, wisconsin...

Pretending to the one of the brother, david koch. and you get this? walker bought it. the guy who said he's not going to talk to anybody. the kochs are call? his office confirmed it. i wouldn't believe it. it's an amazing insight into his public thinking. we're going to give you a whole breakdown of the tape in one second. wait till we get to the part about baseball bats and parties in california. but first on the call, governor walker wasted no time threat threatening worker layoffs. >> i got layoff notices ready. we put out the at risk notices, we'll announce nuthursday and they'll go out ea...

>> wow! >> lunch ladies. >> he kicks little dogs. >> he does. >> and i hear a lot of people say this, what new jersey needs is higher taxes. seriously. all these northeast states, the reason why storefronts are closing, willie, in your hometown in northern new jersey, because taxes aren't high enough. if you raise taxes even more, that will encourage more businesses -- oh, wait a second. it's just the opposite. i'm sorry, willie. i didn't mean to interrupt you. >> i thought you were jon corzine there for a second. >> wow! >> that was an ad by the new jersey -- >> did you catch that? >> -- new ...