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There's -- >> donny, i've got to stop you, protect you from yourself. it's not that these candidates aren't "likable as human beings," i'm sure they're all likable as human beings, they're not credible as -- >> credible -- by the way, newt gingrich did not come across as likable. donald trump's a friend of mine, he's not likable. michele bachmann to a lot of america -- this is a guy -- >> you don't like a guy that quotes pokemon and says oh, shucky ducky. i like that. >> it's a show we want to watch. the american public has an emotional need to watch santorum and obama. >> no, no, no, on your ...

Contraception. >> i've got to say -- >> and you are exactly right. last week when there was the perception that, hey, stop pushing the church around. liberal and conservative catholics, stop pushing the church around, and then the red hats, the bishops and the cardinals started wagging their fingers and a lot of catholics saying, hey -- >> i want to go back for a second. i don't want to gloss over it that mitt romney is not panicking and this is more of the same. it's not. and you touched on this yesterday, he should be panicking. here's the difference where i think the negative ads are not go...

On the set, also the great al sharpton. >> host of "politics nation." >> and mike barnicle. so this is a guy that graduated from harvard. nobody drafted him. he just bounces around from one team to another and golden state takes him on, cuts him, and donny deutch, you can't write this. >> what's incredible about this story, not to get too holy with it. this is one of the few things where the 1% and the 99% can agree. sees a guy who came out of nowhere, an underdog, a working class guy. >> don't overthink this. you're ruining it. >> and the 1% -- he's a harvard guy, it's incredible. this is one...

Wealthy is necessarily anti-poor or lacks sensitivity. i think what's wrong with washington is what's wrong with washington, that you have some policies that clearly are insensitive to a lot of the american population, and you have this whole trickle down economic theory, many of whom were very nonpoor -- nonwealthy i should say right wingers that developed this in first place. i don't think wealth in and of itself defines it. i think the insensitivity. >> it's not the wealth of the candidates. it's the wealth of the campaigns and how much money is actually in the process. >> and that's a very...

>> in a small sense, yes, but we're winning battle. politifact called frank luntz's comments the lie of the year. if i'm a working class guy who's the message man, that's my talking point. fox news is a lie factory. don't believe what they said. >> a couple months ago fox news stuck a camera in your face at the occupy wall street and you knocked it out of the park. i mean, how can other people do the same thing? you were just right off the cuff and just nailed them. took the words right out of the mouth of the reporter. he was speechless. how do you do that? >> i read a lot. i like to consider...