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Have spurred enrollment, when you were working inside hhs, is that something that anyone ever considered as a possibility? >> no, but at the same time, though, i would have to say, if we look at the grassroots efforts, the efforts by the patient navigators, the assistants, so many other community-based organizations that were actually on the ground, i think that certainly they should be commended along with the federal and the state government officials in helping to mitigate any potential damage by these ads and other anti-obama care efforts. they really just did an extraordinary job and i th...

Of states expanded medicaid coverage. minorities, african-americans are disproportionately likely to be served by medicaid. they're disproportionately more likely to be more low income. unfortunately, african-americans, other minorities are disproportionately more likely to reside in states that chose not to expand medicaid coverage. so until we really address that challenge, we're not going to realize the full gains that many of us anticipated from the earliest days. >> to put that map up back there in the south, particularly, where there are very high populations of african-americans in stat...

Your reaction to the study that suggests that possibly all the anti-obama care spending might have spurred enrollment, when you were working inside hhs, is that something that anyone ever considered as a possibility? >> no, but at the same time, though, i would have to say, if we look at the grassroots efforts, the efforts by the patient navigators, the assistants, so many other community-based organizations that were actually on the ground, i think that certainly they should be commended along with the federal and the state government officials in helping to mitigate any potential damage by t...