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That. remember the comments that there were concerns about a military escalation. but you've had two summits now. the process cannot survive based on just the discussion of how good your relationship is. that relationship has to deliver results. and this is the second time it was not able to do that. and that is a problem. doesn't mean that they won't get there, but you saw both the president and secretary of state say we wish in effect that we had gotten further and were not able to get that distance. and you saw it in the president's voice as well. clearly disappointed with that. >> i think ...

Said some people are saying that and some people are denying that, in effect the president denying his own intelligence community's assessment that that activity continues there. so that is a concern, that as north korea stretches out these talks, that how much does it really give up. it pauses the nuclear and missile tests, but if it is continuing to expand its nuclear capabilities, what is the u.s. losing in the process. it is a request the president was not willing to acknowledge. >> and you mentioned the helsinki moment -- >> on the other hand though -- sorry. we have a delay. on the other...

Fact the president said no, not good enough and was willing to walk away. >> the one good bit of information that the president gave us is that he said kim jung-un maintains his pledge to keep the halt on nuclear or bk ballistic missile testing. >> so on the down side, a dictator has been legitimized. but is the world a safer place as a result of the two summits? >> we just don might happen in the aftermath of a summit that didn't actually produce even what the first one did.might ha the aftermath of a summit that didn't actually produce even what the first one did. they talk a good game, but ...

Crossed and is dotted and then the leaders come and in-so the papers to great fanfare. this was opposite. maybe it was necessary to break down this wall of distrust, to have some sort of personal relationship. and i think most people believe that foundation has been laid. but after the first summit in singapore, not to come away with anything here, that is not terribly hopeful or helpful and it does beg the question that others did ask before this, will kim jung-un allow this to become a working group, working level process. will donald trump want to keep meeting with kim jung-un. and if so, y...

The past that have advanced the courses of peace. we had it under president clinton with the agreed framework, we had it a little bit under president george w. bush after dismissing the clinton process and then started his own and there was a moment where it looked like kim jung-un's father kim jong-il would continue denuclearizing and that was a process. he died and that was a big reason why it came a cropper. and now we'll wait to see if kim jung-un as he says wants to turn his sights to the economic development of his country. >> we know he is not willing to fully denuclearize at this point...