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Take him out of presidential race in 2020 and here what mcconnell had to say about this. >> i think it's the best we could have done in a time of divided government, the alternatives were much worse. chris: ben, as i mentioned to mick mulvaney, this increases spending by over $300 billion over the next 2 years, how much heartburn is it causing conservative republicans? >> i think it's causing a lot of heartburn, i think there are a lot of people who feel like this is kind of the end of the tea party era and a lot of different respects but this is all kind of connected in a way because what we ...

Couple of you about the tweets, your reaction about cummings of baltimore? >> he was not only attacking the chair of oversight committee, he was attacking the entire seventh district of maryland which includes baltimore city and the rest, the president is absolutely wrong, when lawmakers are questioning his policy, questioning the implementation of -- of policy, the president goes after these lawmakers in a personal way, i think it's wrong, but, of course, this is the president's strategy. chris: do you think he's racist? >> i don't know what's in his heart but repeated pattern that we have se...

Respects the fact that we are coming together as a party. chris: so ben, do you think it's all sweetness and rainbows and lollipops in democratic caucus and seriously, how much do you think aoc and member it was squad, progressive members threatened caucus? >> i think it's threat to the party, families can be dysfunctional too in all sorts of ways, in this circumstance we saw this week the power of nancy pelosi working one way. you had the mueller hearing sort of go down the way that she actually thought it was going to go down, disappointing summer reboot if it was the version of the book, yo...

Witch hunt? >> it is not a witch hunt. >> when the president said the russian interference was a hoax that was false, wasn't it? >> true. chris: not a witch hunt, not a hoax and the president is not exonerated. >> that last one which is the second clip you played, probably one of the most offensive things i've seen on television from a federal government employee since i've been here, it's a fairly high bar for that. did not exonerate the president. there's no way to exonerate the president, that's not the job of a special prosecutor, you don't get exonerated. you are innocent until proven gui...

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