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State included in the presidential primaries, that we flex those kind of issues. a few bucks, go writing a letter to the dnc, recommending that michigan be one of the early primary states. and i am not saying that michigan should always be the state that is in there, but there should always be a heartland state, to reflect the diversity of this country. but, i will give you an example. most people do not believe me in 2016, i said donald trump would win michigan. he understood the anxiety in the heart of those workers, are there for jobs shipped overseas, nobody cared about what was happening....

And fair election. nixon misused his power, he tried to abuse the department of justice, he definitely obstructed justice. all of those are crimes that trump has done as well. he did much more, and i think the case, i'm one of the people who strongest and saying that there is proof of insurrection. not only has a judge found that his words led to the violence, not only has another judge said that it is more likely than not that he committed a felony along with john eastman in connection with the fake electors, and it's the pressure on pence. all of those are much worse than anything that happe...

This? it's kind of at laissez-faire apollo -- policy, but that might be the wrong word if you examine, it he diffuse to have a vaccine mandate, he opened up the state, he forced kids and teachers to go back in the classrooms earlier than the expert class. so now that he has cut back against the conventional wisdom, you are now seeing him do it with vaccines. so it is consistent with that pattern of behavior. so is this being done with a specific idea, outflanking trump? people around him say no, it's consistent with his behavior. however the reality is, rhonda santas is very calculating, he is...

World where lies trump truth, where democracy is being challenged by authoritarianism. if we americans elect leaders who did not search for ourselves in a way out, i am afraid this great experiment will fall into the ash heap of history. >> olivia, really quick, your reactions to congressman kinzinger? >> i think he is absolutely correct. i think that he served with great integrity, that is what matters. i think we need more of that across the republican party. because that integrity right now, it is gone. >> and jen? >> that is why you run for office, that is why you are supposed to run for o...

Over this. i was one of those individuals. we saw it to your other point that it worked out. and here is the thing. even if the republicans that the party is saying, like adam kinzinger and liz cheney, it's not lost on us, for those people, for the courage they have shown, still voted for the john r. lewis voting advancement act, and kinzinger could even bring himself to vote for the marriage act. these people need to be defeated, in the general election through supporting the most extreme person in the primary, as has been effective this cycle, i think that's something we need to be open to. ...