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Need effective checks and balances, you've got to have one an effective executive branch that looks closely at the legality of the programs and two, you've got and your viewers need to demand effective congressional oversight from the u.s. congress. that is essentially the deal we've struck here in the united states. that our intelligence communities have got to tell the congress what they are doing and the congress has got to provide a check, has got to give advice to the intelligence community to make sure its consistent with our values, but also to make sure it's effective so we don't have ...

Reorganization that would require massive bureaucratic change to create a secretary of intelligence. >> all right, michael allen, thank you very much. after the break, we've got a real treat for you. a lovely triple threat. if you're a fan of cheers or chicago, you'll love seeing bebe neuworth at the table. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. it's not the "fumbling around with rotating categories" card.

Necessary and how invasive should it be? and how much citizen liberty is granted by the constitution and how much of what government calls necessary to keep us safe is actually an unnecessary power grab. after 9/11 tensions were so high the american intelligence community was dramatically reshaped. but this year's snowden revelations proved to some, at least one federal judge, that our intelligence apparatus has grown out of control. for a look at the state of our intelligence community let's bring in michael allen, spent seven years in national security in the bush administration and author o...

Authorities and we have constant information sharing, i think the system can work pretty well. >> michael, one of the things you touch on in the book perhaps the organization of our intelligence community, part of the problem, 16 different organizations, spread out across various different cabinets in bureaucracies and we rejected a department of intelligence model in which all agencies would have been collected in one place. do you think that would have been better for the intelligence community and for american citizens? >> that's the essence of the book. your viewers can sort of get a view ...