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They shifted in favor of the americans. so the americans had interests, economic interests in the area. beside which the two regimes in the area are well known to be puppets of the americans and british. so it's not actually -- >> the iraqi, saddam hussein was a puppet of the british? >> he originally -- >> i'm asking you in 1990 when he invaded kuwait. >> the fact is look, the main -- >> i'm just trying to see to what lengths you have to go to make your world view work. tell me, you present yourself as a man of religion and as a holy man. islam says if you kill one life it is like killing the...

Killing the others. >> this is not true. >> saving lives -- >> the ordinary muslims don't have a problem with each other. we believe our land, our war -- >> ordinary kuwaiti muslims were being killed by iraqis. >> this is not correct. the iraqi and the kuwaiti regimes had interests, mainly oil interests, with the british and the americans. they changed hands after the first gulf war. they shifted in favor of the americans. so the americans had interests, economic interests in the area. beside which the two regimes in the area are well known to be puppets of the americans and british. so it's n...