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Science and speed not chaos and confusion. >> reporter: wolf, another change we're seeing tonight in light of this new omicron variant now here in the united states is the cdc is requiring airlines to get contact information from passengers, then turn that information over to the cdc who then in turn gives it to public and these local health departments throughout states in case they need that information for contact tracing and testing. >> very important information. kaitlan collins at the white house. let's bring in our covid experts. cnn's chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. the...

Correct? >> absolutely. again, underscores the need for folks to get vaccinated because we know symptoms are going to be far less. we really want to keep the travel economy going again. one in six open jobs is in the travel industry. 65% of unemployment, pandemic-related unemployment, is in the travel industry. we're looking at a 2024 time horizon for recovery. quite frankly, again, you have to balance the health concerns and the economic concerns that we're facing here. again, want to underscore the need for folks to get vaccinated, but we really do need to look at individual risk assessment ...

Corners for safety to get such vaccines approved and on the market if needed. >> reporter: wolf, the president is supposed to lay out more details of his administration's plan to address the coronavirus pandemic as we move into the winter months on thursday. the white house officials making clear they are extremely vigilant and very cautious about what might be coming over acknowledging it is in all likelihood the omicron variant is already in the united states and pressing again and again for vaccinations in boosters underscoring that despite the lack of full information at this point in time...

For all americans 18 years and older. all american adults. final approval from the cdc director could come at any moment. our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta is joining us right now. as the author of the new book "world war c: lessons from the covid-19 pandemic and how to prepare for the next one." sanjay, thanks, as usual. did the committee, from your perspective, make the right call? >> yeah, it sounds like it, wolf. they looked at this data. they have been making the case that the vaccines continue to work really well. but there was some indication that some of the effectivenes...

Our very own dr. sanjay gupta sitting down with joe rogan to talk all things covid for a three-hour interview. he's here to talk about it. he lived through that. dr. sanjay gupta and author of the book "world war c" lessons from the cove pandemic, how to prepare for the next one. dr. sanjay gupta is here. good to see you. listen, i thought it was -- you covered a variety of subjects as it relates to covid. let's play some of the long interview and then we'll talk. here it is. >> okay. >> obviously vaccinated people can catch it and spread it. >> yes, they can. >> if that's the case, the argume...