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Don't humiliate me. don't put me down. i've been your friend. think of the future. think of the impact it has on our quote-unquote other friends in the middle east. so we have to play it cool. we have to be clear we want a democratic change in egypt. but we have to be willing to encourage the emergence of a genuine political process, because suppose he resigns tomorrow. would suleiman be better? would some unknown jump? what about the demonstrators. are they organized. do they have leaders. do they have a program. they say they want democracy. what do they mean by democracy. >> your experience...

Seems to be launching his re-election campaign. today he hit two points republicans love to question -- his christianity and his winning the future. guess who suddenly is looking stronger for 2012? let me finish with glenn beck's is cracker barrel crack-up. let me start with the situation in egypt. joining me on the phone in cairo is nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel. richard, what do we make of this call for trials of president mubarak and people like vice president suleiman? >> reporter: the call for trials for the people he believes are instigating? is that what you're aski...