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We're doing. >> i think we saw in that interview, like jerry springer. i don't know. it's so hard to understand, because like you said, you say one thing and then someone is like well, that's not it and it's like we don't have a cohesive definition. look what you're supposed to do with masks once you're vaccinated. what are we supposed to do? i'm not really sure. and i think we're seeing this microcosm within -- like you saw with the parent meeting. it's just like that's what the country is like right now. it's just a bunch of people fighting. i don't know why we didn't start that meeting with...