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Navy. she is a licensed pilot who helped find air france 447 when it crashed into the atlantic ocean in 2009. and steven wallace, former director for the faa's office of accident investigation who is now a cnn aviation analyst. welcome. so, one hardly knows where to start with this, because we know so little and it seems with each passing day, one of the questions i want to ask and either one of you can answer this, is over time, wouldn't everything -- let's say the plane is somewhere at the bottom of the ocean. what would they be looking for now? what survives on the top of the ocean? >> well...

>> there certainly are. when you look at this, malaysian government has now concluded that this was a deliberate act, that these were deliberate things that maybe only could have been done by someone who understood this plane, which would be the folks in the cockpit. when you look at the things that have come in now, the things that we think we know for sure, where do you see would be your first avenue of investigation? >> well, in any investigation that we conduct in the united states and in the west countries that are familiar with accident investigations, everything that we've talked about ...

Transponder is secured, there could still be some signature that's possible to be detected. so i think that they went back and they looked and they started seeing this additional data and that's what gave us the far-flung area that we are looking at now. >> and how do you search for that sort of thing? >> i think those things are picked up by satellite so they're beginning to look at other wider means of detecting the aircraft, which again, i don't know what data they're using. >> what do you most want to see? what do you most need to begin to make sense of this? >> well, in all accident inves...

In the post-9/11 era. and john galea, former member of the national transportation safety board. ambassador negroponte, i want to go to you first. you can put on your intelligence hat here. what right now are u.s. intelligence agencies looking for, doing, fearful of? >> first of all, it is quite surprising this has gone on that long. secondly, i'd say it is also a surprise that we haven't really gotten any information from any other country. and i think presumably the plane flew over a number of them. i think that they, like the malaysians themselves, who are, after all, in charge of the inves...

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