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Facebook. effort builds on many points gretchen carlson has been fighting for. new book "be fierce: stop harassment and take your power back." thanks for being here, gretchen. >> thanks for having me, ari. >> is there strength in numbers? >> oh my gosh, yes. when you're by yourself and jump off the cliff and you feel like you're all alone, that's an excruciating choice. now one of my favorite phrases is one woman can make a difference, but together we rock the world. and look at what's happening. we're shifting the blame and the shame from those who come forward to the actual harassers. and th...

>> we're not here talking about people putting up cat videos or passing on "snl" skits. this is not what this is about. it is paid political advertising. >> it the legal argument there, jill, is that there should be more tools for the united states government to prevent this stuff. so she's saying we're not trying to stop cat videos, but if it is a paid ad, it should be regulated at such. loyal viewers of "the beat" may remember we had an fcc commissioner on a couple years back who said she tried years ago to regulate this before any of the russia stuff came out. but jill, why is this importan...

And legal to say that the american public has a right to know who is the advertiser. and so i think really it is time to do that. i know facebook and twitter aren't going to want to have any infringement of their freedom. but i think in terms of voting, it's just too important. our democracy depends on our knowing who it is. >> right. you -- >> the same way i feel about -- >> yeah, you make the comparison to tv. that is a rule that applies to tv. it's not a rule that applies to facebook. i mean, libby, part of the issue here is the tech companies have had fewer rules. they don't want more rule...

Jones added, "these angry declarations that they have some absolute right not to be with trans women is just made placed and inappropriate. "an absolute right today who you want. you thought you had such a right. silly you. your personal romantic preferences, they are no longer let your own. they are an extension of your political preferences, and therefore public property. if you are a biological man who prefers biological women, you are a bigot. virtually, everything that seems too absurd, ugly, or totalitarian to be real, it will inevitably become a mainstream cause for the left at some poi...

Jones added, "these angry declarations that they have some absolute right not to be with trans women is just made placed and inappropriate. "an absolute right today who you want. you thought you had such a right. silly you. your personal romantic preferences, they are no longer let your own. they are an extension of your political preferences, and therefore public property. if you are a biological man who prefers biological women, you are a bigot. virtually, everything that seems too absurd, ugly, or totalitarian to be real, it will inevitably become a mainstream cause for the left at some poi...