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He's trying to go through a red light. so he should be held to the same standards as someone who gets behind the wheel of a car and operates it recklessly. because of his actions, because of his specific intentions to plow through where there's people that man died. so yes, i guess it's a victory in that they obtained the first felony conviction in a case like this, but it's an empty victory. this man on the screen lost his life and this guy gets to do some community service. that for me personally having worked at that office, i wouldn't have pled that case out for no time. no way. >> well, i...

He's trying to go through a red light. so he should be held to the same standards as someone who gets behind the wheel of a car and operates it recklessly. because of his actions, because of his specific intentions to plow through where there's people that man died. so yes, i guess it's a victory in that they obtained the first felony conviction in a case like this, but it's an empty victory. this man on the screen lost his life and this guy gets to do some community service. that for me personally having worked at that office, i wouldn't have pled that case out for no time. no way. >> well, i...