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Espionage cases you cannot show intent to inform the public, you cannot show motive. you can't make your case at all. the only thing the trial would be about is if he stole the data and not what his motives were. it is disingeneral wise for those who said the same thing to say tell us about the story. they wouldn't let him do that. >> i don't want him to come back here. he will be a hero when he doesn't deserve to be. >> talk about manning up. if he had given away the secrets and then put his hands out to be handcuffed, wouldn't he be more of a hero? >> absolutely. >> he would be a martyr. >> ...

Espionage cases you cannot show intent to inform the public, you cannot show motive. you can't make your case at all. the only thing the trial would be about is if he stole the data and not what his motives were. it is disingeneral wise for those who said the same thing to say tell us about the story. they wouldn't let him do that. >> i don't want him to come back here. he will be a hero when he doesn't deserve to be. >> talk about manning up. if he had given away the secrets and then put his hands out to be handcuffed, wouldn't he be more of a hero? >> absolutely. >> he would be a martyr. >> ...

Must be dealt with. i think russia to get into the policy side is looking at the georgian playbook and their liegeance now to russia. i think russia and putin is trying to do the same thing. recast the empire that he once had. >> the invasion of georgia was under george w. bush. you can't blame obama for that, obviously. but also the point that you're making about the president seeming weak. i mean, this is exactly what i'm curious about. if you want to declare it as something, an act of war. that's a strong word to use, right? if he called it an act of war, wouldn't he then be forced to inter...

Us speeding going almost a hundred, i said, i don't know, i was just reading. i was just reading. >> oh, my gosh! we have andrea here and david. i'd like to get to ukraine, if we could. is my dad coming on today? no? he turned us down. >> he is too busy. he says he is too busy and he is doing too many shows and he doesn't want you to know the strength of his words. >> i heard him on the radio this morning. >> what? >> i did. i don't know if it was live but i heard him. >> he is everywhere. he is probably on cnn right now, mika. i mean, come on. you need to talk to your dad. your mom send you...

Quite some time. what do you think about the early poll numbers? they show that hillary is ahead of someone like chris christie. would the democrats really even want biden to jump in? >> i'm sure they're -- if hillary clinton runs, there will be somebody probably someone from her left, a more populist joim should we say who would challenge her. but she'll have a very strong position, and if joe biden decides to run, i look forward to moderating some debates between joe biden and hillary clinton and hopefully the voters out there will be able to make a good, smart decision. when you are vice pr...