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>> certainly we would say he did. but the truth is you want to pick somebody who is non-controversial and that's why daniels might have a little trouble with what he has previously said about a need for truce on social issue. that might wrangle some of the republican base. there's the possibility. but you have to like portman because he has good conservative credential and may not be that exciting but he probably wouldn't pick anybody else. >>reporter: let's take the another category do this pretty quickly. if you are tied you said this is where you want somebody to bring a little singe and he...

Did. but the truth is you want to pick somebody who is non-controversial and that's why daniels might have a little trouble with what he has previously said about a need for truce on social issue. that might wrangle some of the republican base. there's the possibility. but you have to like portman because he has good conservative credential and may not be that exciting but he probably wouldn't pick anybody else. >>reporter: let's take the another category do this pretty quickly. if you are tied you said this is where you want somebody to bring a little singe and help out who do you have on the...

I want to make sure we nominate somebody that beats barack obama. >> i agree with what you said when you said that about a month ago, governor, but there's nobody else getting in, it looks like. so they're basically looking at, do i want coffee or tea right now, and they can't decide which one. is it that they don't want either one? is it they don't want perry -- it looks like right now. they don't want cain, he's untested, a business guy with no political background, and they don't think romney's a true conservative, it seems to me. how else can you explain why they wouldn't pick romney? why ...