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>> he wouldn't get involved. all he's done is get involved. but also, look, what i think is interesting is two things. one is he can't decide whether or not he knows this guy or not. one minute he doesn't know him. i don't know anything about him. i just heard good things. the next time he talked about him, he knows everything about him. i mean very low indicia of credibility there in terms of what the president knows about this man or doesn't know. but at the end of the day, why would he wouldn't whitaker to do anything to the special counsel? >> yeah. i mean, look, to your first point, it se...

Respected person. he's going to do what's right. i really believe he's going to do what's right. >> but you won't overall him if he decides to curtail -- >> i would not get involved. >> he wouldn't get involved. all he's done is get involved. but also, look, what i think is interesting is two things. one is he can't decide whether or not he knows this guy or not. one minute he doesn't know him. i don't know anything about him. i just heard good things. the next time he talked about him, he knows everything about him. i mean very low indicia of credibility there in terms of what the president k...