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What happened to george w. bush in katrina. but even so, what people will remember is this is an episode that reeks, that reeks, not only of cruelty but of incompetence. the administration put this policy into place, which they badly executed. they turned their back on the suffering, tried to avert their eyes. they then lied about how to fix it. and finally they reversed course. and i think all of it, everybody has looked at this and said, oh, my god, how can they have done this? my judgment, even though thiis not a katrina, it will leave an indelible stain upon the presidency. >> what's worse...

They're really heavy, and that heaviness is love. >> it's hard to hear about these kids, you can't believe that a kid would be hungry, first of all, and they're taking food home for their family. it's a lot of responsibility, i think, and i, you know -- it's like we can do better. >> it's the reason i wanted to tell the story of feeding america. matt knots is the organization's president. >> i think it's a solvable problem, actually. we're working at scale to solve that problem, to get food from really every point in the u.s. food supply chain, to farm to fork, whether it's surplus food, to ca...

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Flickers of daylight between nielsen and president trump. >> technology, as you know, plays a key part and we can't forget it. >> reporter: telling congress one of the president's prize goals, wall with mexico, isn't entirely necessary. >> there is no need for a wall from sea to shining sea. >> reporter: nielsen has clashed with president trump, who has reportedly accused her of being softer on immigration than he would like, including over the child separation policy. in may, "the new york times" reported that nielsen had been driven to the brink of resignation, even prompting her to draft a ...

Changing direction, he framed it as not changing direction, as an act of political bravery. the framing aside, the expectation was it may lead to the reunion of more than 2,300 kids with family members. tonight, as we've been reporting, there's a catch or perhaps a catch-22. today's order does nothing for the 2,300 kids already in custody. joining me to talk about it is gloria borger, david gergen, and mike shields. gloria, this administration, in president was saying days ago, an executive order wouldn't work, and now this reversal. >> right. look, he said it was up to congress, that it wasn'...