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Coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. Robert mueller is not. See you in a bit. Here onset for another day, dan goldman, an msnbc legal analyst along with our pal nbc News Reporter carol lee. It is less hot than it has been all week. You picked a good day to be here. Dan, let me start with you, if you look at what each side wants, they are both looking for leverage. And the sticking point, one of them seems to be this idea much an in person interview. What is the framing behind that . The trump team wants questions on collusion only and special counsel wants t...

>> this is not sean spicer's book which is a loyal showing to the president. >> the exact opposite. response earlier this year is like wash, rinse, repeat. they always say when someone is doing something they don't like, that they had limited contact. weren't really that close. so it's -- kind of seeing this again. >> if you have not heard enough, you will hear much more this weekend, she's joining chuck todd, sunday on meet the press. before we go. let's wrap up quick. carol, what our sources are telling us. what are your sources saying? >> the president has been positive about the outlook fo...