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But that even an incremental uptick is the difference to many people between, you know, nothing on the dinner table tomorrow and an $85,000 a year job. that's a huge, you know, difference in situations. people don't understand how deep it goes in the culture. we're talking families five generations of coal miners. their whole identity wrapped up, proud of what their, you know, their relatives, their fathers and grandfathers and great grandfathers, the price they paid, how hard they worked to dig coal out of the ground. i go down to a coal mine. i hope this show makes people like me from new yo...

Ask people is it important, 82% say it's important. everything is important when you ask it in isolation. >> you can always do just what's popular. sometimes you do what's right. somebody messing with your democracy deserves covering. >> everybody who said donald trump couldn't win, everybody who said the election was all wrapped up, every screaming headline, every wrong poll, every anchor, every pundit who said this is over, it's a joke, he can't win, tried to interfere in the election. >> oh, please. you're going to put them on the same -- >> i didn't say that. get out of bed, breathe air an...

Trump campaign adviser in may of 2016 contained the following message -- "russia is quietly but actively seeking a dialogue with the u.s. that isn't forthcoming under the current administration." joining us to discuss the potential kremlin link, political contributor jason johnson and julie ensley. walk us through here, julie, what was being proposed by this conservative operative, a republican member of the national rifle association? >> first, i just want to say the context here is really important, because what we're seeing is a pattern that's developing over these may 2016 e-mails. nbc rep...

And what i fear is that this administration has been seeking to help the russians. and if you just look at the sanctions that congress has put in place that we voted for, that this administration has still not executed against russia, it shows that they're not willing to really stand up to russia, and it's likely because of what k.t. mcfarland said, they knew that they were helped. >> congressman, i can't count how many legal experts have sat around this tame taibl and said when you look at a plea like that announced on friday, you've got to look up the food chain, you've got to look at what b...

Jeff sessions and rick dearborn, again to try to set up this meeting. what all this is really showing is that it's part of the kremlin's plan. there was really a three-pronged approach to be able to infiltrate the conservatives and the trump campaign through their kind of pet issues, one of which, of course, is guns. they also tried to do this through veterans rights groups and christian organizations. "the new york times" lays all this out, that as part of a plan to get to trump through channels of people that he knew would be supporting him and to try to set up a back channel for him to comm...