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Campaign finance violations. now, what is it that they're so desperate to hide that they would try to blackmail or extort bezos to keep him from further investigating, in part, how they got a hold of bezos's private information from his phone, his photographs, his private emails? it must be something -- >> how did they get those? >> there has been some speculation that maybe it was a foreign government who acquired them, fed them to ami and ami is desperate to keep that information from seeing the light of day. that's why they would put this extortion virtually in writing to bezos. that's more...

Faith negotiations to resolve all matters with bezos, nonetheless, in light of the nature of the allegations published by mr. bezos, the board has convened and determined that it should promptly and thoroughly investigate the claims. in he is sense, jay, they're going to investigate themselves, they don't necessarily deny that they tried this? >> it seems to be that way. everything -- bezos himself said in the medium post that when he began his investigation that he was surprised to find that he wasn't the only person investigating it, that authorities were investigating there were several inv...

Publisher bullying and the richest man in the world. as you read that whole writing bezos put out there on the website medium, do they sound true to form? >> they do. it certainly is the "national enquirer" and the parent company ami, this is their m.o. the president who is long-time allies of david pecker, head of ami, who the "national enquirer" and sister publications have given favorable coverage to the president. just as significantly negative coverage to his rivals. let's remember ted cruz when it published unsubstantiated allegations that ted cruz had several affairs during the 2016 cam...

And the clip you played strefpls the truth that donald trump is not keenly aware above what's going on here. before this latest exchange with bezos he was asked about it on the white house lawn. he commented then. he tweeted about it. he is frequently complaining about the coverage he receives in the "washington post" which bezos owns. in that letter, he believes that is the reason for this extortion attempt to try to keep him quiet from exposing more of what's happening with the president. >> for this extortion and blackmail, kimberly, many are saying it's a larger picture than this. there mi...

With donald trump. this as others like journalists ronan farrow come out in support of bezos saying he too faced blackmail efforts from ami, the company that runs the "enquirer." we're joined on set by glenn kirk as well as jay newton small contributor for "time" magazine. glenn, let's start with you. i noted the tweet you had. this is extortion at its core on ami and bezos, what makes you say so? >> basically extortion is a fancy word but all it really requires is if you threaten somebody to obtain a thing of value two elements as we say in the law. it sure seems like that is what ami has don...