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Russians, but because he was such a great candidate. >> the fact is -- you people won't say this, but i'll say it. i was a much better candidate than her. you always say she was a bad candidate. you never say i was a good candidate. i was one of the greatest candidates. >> all right, the election more than a year ago now. jon karl live at the white house tonight, as well. jon, the president saying one thing, telling you last night that he's, quote, looking forward to speaking to robert mueller, but tonight, the president's own lawyer says not so fast, that he'll be the one to decide whether th...

To say. i mean, i was talking to somebody close to trump on the outside, somebody who speaks, spends a lot of time talking to the president and they said to me, there is no way trump will agree to an interview like this with mueller. mainly because of that reason, that all the opportunities and the pitfalls and risks for this. now, i'm not saying trump told them that. that sounded the way they were talking like they were speculating. i would find it shocking for ty cobb to put it out there without having fairly detailed conversations with his clients. we know that they have been gaming this ou...

Now, i'm not saying trump told them that. that sounded the way they were talking like they were speculating. i would find it shocking for ty cobb to put it out there without having fairly detailed conversations with his clients. we know that they have been gaming this out and preparing for the scenario, talking about whether they could do written q and as or whether it would be an inperson briefing. the risks for an inperson briefing are substantial and that phrase he used perjury trap is pretty telling because as we know, donald trump is not exactly precise in the way that he describes events...