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That should probably be early next week. and then we really have to sit and decide exactly where we're going from there. >> in terms of that presentation from the intel committee, obviously you received the written report. congressman swalwell, do you expect that presentation to be something that the public will be allowed to see or is that going to be a closed door proceeding? >> we want all of this be open. what's really remarkable that presentation is it will show that with limited witnesses, only 12, who courageously came forward and limited documents, 72 requests to the white house, they ...

Places you'd both rather be, many of which might involve an easy chair. thanks for making time. >> thank you. >> let me ask you both this first question. it's actually about a little bit of breaking news. cnn is reporting this evening your committee might be announcing as soon as tonight what comes next. next impeachment hearings maybe as soon as next week. can either of you speak to that at all? >> well, i think what we know is that we will have presentations from the intel committee both the majority and the minority will have the opportunity to come and testify before us, and that should pr...

He was privately lobbying for it. privately trying to according to the witnesses extort it. and then publicly said yes on the white house lawn. don't forget. this is what we would see in a senate trial if there is evidence. he said something more damning than any other written report. he wanted a serious investigation of the bidens. point. point. so americans are watching this hearing with that understanding. the bribery was about the election, not another thing. >> if the judgment is going to be rendered it is going to be about whether we can accept that as a country. it would seem that where...

Point that he used as recently as today. you could argue the democrats have not always shown themselves able to handle the big moment. is there any reason to believe that that will change effective wednesday morning? >> i think you're right that there have been some big moments of this presidency that have been a flop. the biggest one is probably robert mueller's testimony which after a lot of buildup did not, as i said, the book was better than the movie in that case. it did not add or amplify the written report. here, the question is with someone like bill taylor, will him telling his story,...

Last televised hearing to give a dramatized version of the president's phone call with ukraine. it gave the president a talking point that he used as recently as today. you could argue the democrats have not always shown themselves able to handle the big moment. is there any reason to believe that that will change effective wednesday morning? >> i think you're right that there have been some big moments of this presidency that have been a flop. the biggest one is probably robert mueller's testimony which after a lot of buildup did not, as i said, the book was better than the movie in that case...