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Tonight as the breaking news story of the night. it's about the incident that made david holmes an important witness in the impeachment investigation of donald trump. david holmes is an important witness who we did not even know existed at this time last week. the first public reference made to david holmes was in wednesday's hearing when ambassador william taylor shocked the hearing room and millions of viewers when he described a phone call from a restaurant in ukraine to president trump that david holmes had overheard. but ambassador taylor did not reveal then david holmes' name. he simply ...

Taylor's testimony, david holmes was describing that phone call under oath in a closed door deposition on friday. and on friday night, that became our breaking news, because we were able to report david holmes' version of the phone call from his written opening statement, which nbc news had obtained on friday. and now tonight we have the full transcript. the now famous phone call was made on a cell phone at a restaurant in kyiv by the trump ambassador to the european union, gordon sondland, after ambassador sondland met with president zelensky. chairman adam schiff took david holmes through th...

He is a member of intelligence house committee. he attended david holmes' under oath deposition. also an msnbc political analyst covering his second impeachment. he was a younger man for that first one in the 1970s. >> that is correct. >> and norm lowenstein has watched all three of these impeachments from nixon forward. let me ask you about this deposition we're getting. it was dramatic enough on friday night when we read the opening statement in which he describes this phone call so clearly. but seeing the testimony that chairman schiff took him through and hearing his explanation of why he ...

Into russian interference in the 2016 election. that was revealed today in a federal court -- federal appeals court hearing. the house general counsel argued impeachment investigators need to get access to the special counsel's secret grand jury evidence to determine whether president trump committed perjury in his written responses to robert mueller's questions. evidence revealed last week in the trial of donald trump's longest serving adviser roger stone contradicts the president's response to robert mueller that, quote, i do not recall discussing wikileaks with stone, nor do i recall being ...

Who was at the roger stone trial last week. glen, what do you make of the president's conduct with the testimony of the roger stone trial? >> you know, lawrence, i watched the testimony unfold in the stone trial. it became pretty obvious that the president's answer in his written questions to bob mueller, at least with respect to his conversations with roger stone, were just flat out false. what are the implications of that? we all know it's not likely the president could be charged with perjury, really, for a few reasons. one, perjury is difficult to prove in a court of law. not impossible, b...