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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams 20191107 09:11:00

phone call you re going to give him the deliverable, the go investigation, then you ll get the meeting.me i mean, the quid pro quo happened. the bribe happened. facts don t even seem to be in dispute here.in exactly. and that s what adam schiff said, and he s exactly right.chy and that s an important point because i think the republicans, on the one hand they don t haveo a coherent message. on the other hand, they re trying to make it seem really confusing so people kind of like they did with the mueller investigation id but this isn t confusing.at it is not confusing.nf and the facts are established. they can argue what they want tn from the facts. well, it seems to me there s sort of going down the road of,t well, trump didn t say quid pro quo, these other people who, byq the way, are trump people, trump appointees, trump loyalists, you know, where did they get this st idea that they were supposed to make this demand of the ukraine. i know where they got the idea. from rudy

Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams 20191107 09:13:00

have to understand what they e said to each other and how they did what they did. right.he and it s sort of been a waiting game for many in washington, d.c. to see if trump ends up throwing rudy under the bus. there is this small area of distance between rudy and the president as you read through these transcripts in which the president continues to deflect t to rudy, continues to advise o people coming to him to speak directly to rudy as if to give him some sort of plausible deniability if and when this ib thing blew up and became public. now will he use that plausible deniability and say i didn t know what was going on, it was all rudy, if there was a s a nefarious quid pro quo it s his fault and if you have any an frustration or want to take anything out on him politically do it but leave me out of this. i m curious if trump ends up going that route. and honestly i m curious that he hasn t done it so far already.ly maybe it s because rudy simply knows too much. and rudy himself ha

Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams 20191107 09:17:00

i m his defense lawyer. i was seeking in the best tradition of being a lawyer, a h defense lawyer, to vindicate my client.di it s in the best interests of my client to unravel the b corruption in the ukraine. evaluate that, please, mimi. so you know, giuliani is trying to defend himself and his actions by saying i was doing this in the interests of my client, i m just acting as any good defense lawyer would.ny the problem for him and for trump is that first of all he has admitted numerous times on tv and on twitter, tonight, that he was acting this entire policy was in the interests of donald trump, not the united states of america.do he keeps saying my client, st donald trump.ke yeah. and that is it rings true because nothing they were doingn with respect to ukraine was in the interests of protecting ukraine, our ally, protecting them. if you recall for a hot second he was saying he was doing this for the state department and that suddenly

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