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Four kids too. >> there's only a couple places in the country somebody would look at $400,000 and think it's extremely wealthy. >> even in washington, d.c. if you make $400,000 for a couple you're rich. >> this weekend the president's been a tough negotiator. as you said with republicans. i think he's been tough. the general reports about one meeting with boehner, quote, at one point according to notes taken by a participant, mr. boehner said i put $800 billion in tax revenue on the table. what do i get for that? you get nothing. i get that for free. august of 2011. you missed your opportunity...

I'm glad they're shooting at each other and not the rest of america. >> that's why i like you. >> by the way, i'm only saying, i don't think he's a crook. >> the big point is, and joan's right about this. the freedom works is important to the tea party. >> we want matt kibbe back here. >> the group collapses, it's bad for the tea party, it's good for the people who don't like the tea party. >> i want them to get out of the way of government work. that's my number one concern. >> happy new year, i mean it. >> happy new year, chris. >> not sarcastically either. >> i know. >> you two are among my...

>> its editorial pages and straight paper. did you get the sense this is a little tilted towards the republicans because of the sourcing? just about the way they admitted the source. didn't the obama people say we didn't want to participate in this because they thought it would harm the negotiations in progress? >> mark from politico had extra reporter around that. the president was saying when he said i get the $800 billion for free was pointing out people like johnny isaacson, tom cole in the house, conservative republicans who said look. we ought to get this done for the middle class. i thi...

Say in australia now. saying when congress wrote the cliff, defined it, spend cuts, increases on income, tax increase on state. they wrote it up as this horrible thing that nobody would want to face. either side, right? they designed it that way. now they're walking right over that cliff. over niagra falls. explain. >> it's like congress is on pluto and we're all on earth. they say they want deficit reduction. if you go over the cliff, you get deficit reduction, you just don't get it in the responsible, accountable way. it's like chopping off on arm. >> like says i want a shower, i'm going to ...

Is that a good process? >> no. it's a particularly cruel process to everybody involved. we've used the phrase borking. we've gotten around to the notion we have to do this with supreme court justices because it's opposed for life. but until recently, the president was given the leeway that he gets to run his administration and his cabinet the way he wants. and the only reason that a nominee would be knocked back, if there is some question of gross ethical, legal, or moral constraints. and we're seeing this now again and again where these -- it's an overused word, but these picks are being poli...