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Crazy charge and it has to merit? they said we're not going to do that because it would be problematic for anyone else on the left perspective to see us talking to rush limbaugh. now the arguments are getting more political. they're leaking strategic information. we have holder out there in print interviews. you have john brennen out there. i think eventually they'll try more diplomacy when it comes to the cheney mind-set, wu for now, they're not going to invite him in for coffee or tea. >> and i understand the difference is dick cheney set these policies up. again, i'm not naive, actually. i'...