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That's something even if regardless of who win, that gap, whether you're looking at ohio or southwestern pennsylvania, that special election, is something that can't be undertalked about. the second point i would just quickly make is what types of democrats are running on and what types of democrats are winning. that tension, you mentioned house minority leader nancy pelosi about future leadership of the democratic party is incredibly important even beyond the context of the realaeeareal going against president trump and his policies. >> not only within itself, but also the willingness of demo...

This. she chose to directly contradict her husband in a powerful way. that you know, does make you wonder what's happening inside the trump family. >> and what we understand, kevin, is that cnn did ask for a response, they didn't have to respond. but melania trump did respond. >> two things. first, i think i would piggy back off of what peter said in the sense that i think that really what you're seeing is that ivanka as well as the first lady are really kind of engaging with richard, you know, critics and that's something different than we've seen, but the second point is look, i don't think ...