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There are already small towns which we can't access. they are under occupation for couple weeks. we're trying to get there with humanitarian aid, medication, drinking water, but that's being blocked by the russian soldiers. i'm very definite that we will with stand a not let the russians to proceed through the the southern part. which is still standing strong. even though for instance, the area next to the black sea is blocked. the people are protesting every day. and that's what russians don't understand. why they don't receive support. they will not receive any support, they shouldn't count ...

Simply wrong. >> dana, we reported -- "the new york times" reported -- said for a 500 grand you get a meeting, quarterly meetings, the "washington post" editorial -- a "new york times" reporter that is going to make this kind of news would have checked and had the journalistic integrity to at least have a couple sources. i don't know what his sourcing was. but he didn't pull the idea out of thin air. obviously there are some donors who talk to "the new york times" who thought that is what the shrink the nod meant at the meeting. if they gave x amount they would get y access. >> that's a though...

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