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And again about how bad the nfl is, but i think there are bigger reasons that ratings are down. it is kind of weird someone made this joke that in our national divorce between liberals and conservatives that liberals get football. isn't that kind of fair? but here's another fact i put out there, he's never said anything bad about college football and he made that remark in alabama where college football is just as big as the church itself. >> sure. >> college football's down a little bit too. there are a lot of reasons why nfl ratings are down. and i think trump denigrating it week after week ...

Factors, how much the president actually does, that's what is going to influence support. both amongst base vers but also amongst independents. >> y know, the big question is, these multiple crises and whether or not they are going to get in the way of the domestic agenda. how much time do you think his supporters are really going to give him before they start to get angry that more isn't getting done. >> you know, i think in general the midterm election is going to be an important barometer. as we move towards 2018, towards the summer and fall of 2018, that's when you're going to start to see...

Was a base that was really trade skeptical that wasn't being played to or whether the way that partisan politics work is that people adopt their leader's views. what do you think about where the republican party, the republican base is on this right now? >> look, the republican party has become a grievance party in large measure. it's an aggrieved party. you listen to talk radio. you listen to some conservative cable networks. it's all grievance. someone is doing something to you. someone is doing something bad to you. and so that nafta is bad. trade deals are bad. we're getting screwed by the...

There are other things going on as well. we are drifting toward greater involvement in the war in yemen, in the war in syria. you know, so events can play on both sides of that scale. and meanwhile, inside the white house you have this sort of court of the bourgas situation, bannon and priebus and kushner and the democrats,y know, gary cohen, in quotes, which is not conducive to governance, because look at what's happened. >> bill clinton compartmentalized his scandals. he did that. probably sees as much as trump sees. granted, there's no twitter then. who knows if bill clinton would have got ...

It's nseles it doesn't make asee. >> what can you guys say about the people and the heart that's in this city in terms of how we'll move forward? >> bostonians are resilient. they're going to come together. they messed with the wrong people. there's going to be period of grief, i'm sure there will be some anger. and wre going to want to fire out how to keep thifr happening again. untry.here but allvehe >> one ofhehis i heard last night, some were saying oh, ths boston's 9/11. no, no, boston actually was part of 9/11. two of the planes took off from here. this is a city that very much has dealt...