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Determined resourceful and ambitious enemy. we have to look at them for who they are and admit that and not underestimate it number one. they're expanding in syria, in eastern and western syria, they're able to attack any place, at any time they choose inside iraq and they're expanding into libya, yemen, the sinai and afghanistan they're having a regional approach while they're defending somewhat successfully against the united states and the coalition inside of a iraq and syria, that leather is a plus for them and certainly a minus for us. >> when i listen to you say that expanding into egypt...

>> our coalition is on the offensive. isil is on the defensive, and isil is going to lose. >> what happened to that what happened to isil on the defensive. >> we got to see reality as the way it is. this is a disturbing and frightening echo to what we had in 2006 a different administration when we were failing in iraq and the government officials and the military generals were defending the strategy despite the evidence that it was failing. we have government officials, the president of the united states in this case and also military leaders defending a failing strategy and what -- the proble...

>> our coalition is on the offensive. isil is on the defensive, and isil is going to lose. >> what happened to that what happened to isil on the defensive. >> we got to see reality as the way it is. this is a disturbing and frightening echo to what we had in 2006 a different administration when we were failing in iraq and the government officials and the military generals were defending the strategy despite the evidence that it was failing. we have government officials, the president of the united states in this case and also military leaders defending a failing strategy and what -- the proble...

When he suggested the u.s. has no middle east strategy at all. appearing on fox and friends this morning, he talked about how the white house has reacted to the fall of ramadi. listen. >> i think to refer to what happened in ramadi is simply a setback. to say we will help the iraqis regain it. frankly the rhetoric between iraq and getting them done is significant. they have mosul, getting them out of these cities is going to be tough general jack keen the general for the institute -- the pentagon was out there saying isis was on the defensive, and downplaying fears about losing ramadi. >> the ...

Those steps to succeed? >> joining me now, pete heckstaff. general jack keen is chairman for the institute of the study of war, pete i want to begin with you, you were there, you with were in iraq you fought now tonight to hear the white house dismiss this as a setback and say, what are we going to do light our hair on fire every time there's a setback? >> it's incredibly dismissive in other news in mosul, in ramadi in if a luge yarks isis is lighting people on fire. every set back for the white house is a massacre every set back is a stain on soldiers who tried to take ramadi. it underscores ...