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Ignites everybody but something slips occupant that's not quite right and that's what everybody is talking about the next day. >> reporter: yeah joe. scott walker is learning that pretty quickly. rick perry was, speaking of comments in the context much his own bid in 2012 where he had to get up there and learn that lesson really fast. i think more broadly one of the most interesting things i've been learning from behind-the-scenes at cpac a lot of the other campaigns and operatives not just perry but other conservative candidates are focused on walker and that can be a good spot in terms of po...

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Amateur? >> they mostly think it's good for them. trump takes up space that somebody like rubio, for instance, who gets a lot of good press, he's not risen in too many polls. trump takes up room much like gingrich took up a lot of room. the dole people were okay with that. on the other hand we know now that jeb bush and some of the other candidates have begun debate prep. the debate is not that far away. imagine if you're jeb bush and trump comes at you at the debate. the people in the bush camp are trying to think that through. that could be a key moment maybe the key moment in that first deb...