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House chairman devin nunes joined me on the phone. essentially what was going on here was something directed, approved, endorsed by donald trump? >> neil, as you know, it's impossible to know what the actual truth is because you are dealing with two individuals who have two very different points of view. the way i look at this is if all that happened, even if what cohen said happened, people do this all the time. they do settlements out of court. it happens. i don't know what the big deal is. you have people trying to turn this into some sort of chance for campaign finance violations which eve...

Back to saudi arabia to abuse them. he knew about it. couldn't happen without his knowledge. i'm not going to forgive it. if we don't we are opening up pandora's box. >> neil: when the president doesn't move on this and he has stood by the saudi prince, then you here yesterday that the sallies want to curtail oil production regardless -- >> there is a glut in the market. >> neil: that's a heck to a thank you to the president who is trying to stand by him. >> they have to or they'll starve. they're going to do what's best for the saudi economy, which is oil based. the weapons. i'm worried that ...

You have the first interview with cohen in two years, you wasted, you don't talk about the dossier which was fed to the fbi by the democrats but it's reportedly had cohen in prague, cohen dealing in russia, i thought that's why were all here. i thought this had to do with cohen, trump, their involvement in russia. it's not about any of that, it's between a lawyer and his client -- >> neil: it's a little bit more than that, right? i understand what you're saying. obviously, the clinton investigation, as you control, recall, veered wildly out of control. i want to be clear, congressman. are you ...

Democrats that they want trump to lose more than the usa to win. would you, senator lindsey graham, be okay till force a shutdown if that $5 billion wasn't -- >> i am more than okay for the president to make a request to congress and stick to his guns. he ran on securing our border. the democrats all voted, 44 of them, in february of 2018 this year for $25 billion for the wall as part of a larger deal. now they won't give him 5 billion that could be well spent. this is arrogance on their part. they hate trump. they are overrating their mandate. >> neil: separated by, what, $30 million? there's...

He is accustomed very much of being the man in charge. i want to echo my friend robyn's praise of general kelly, who was incredible in public service. >> neil: if he's such a remarkable guy, why is he leaving? >> this is the kind of job that can grind very hard on anyone. especially -- >> neil: he didn't volunteer to leave. by all understanding, the president placed amount. >> do you know what, neil? i don't have a place on that. at the white house christmas party, general kelly was there, he was happily mingling with everyone. seem to be continual there. i agree with robyn and i agree with yo...