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Running for re-election there's no way he could have done what he did last night. again, he might as well have said that he had monkeys growing out of his ears. i don't understand that line of thinking. i always found in my district a very conservative district that if you took a courageous stand and then you explained to it your voters, even the most conservative of voters who may not have agreed with what you did or even the most liberal voters they actually rewarded you for that. but jeff flake, steve kornacki said the last night if he were running for re-election he could never done what d...

Half to that strategy. they were worried about the optics of the hearing but now they have somebody else carrying that water for them. >> they have to be able -- the fbi it seems to me, matt miller, i understand the limiting of the scope as far as the witnesses that you're going to talk to, these are the two incidents that were brought in before our committee, these are the two incidents that we want you to investigate, these are the key players we want you to investigate. i understand in a one week investigation that makes sense. what makes no sense, though, and what collins, flake and murkow...

So important, is to not just talk to him, but then to talk to leads. who else did he talk to about this incident? who else was there? there's talk about a former girlfriend. did he make statements to anyone else about this? in the past month has he talked to brett kavanaugh or others about what his story would be if questioned by the fbi. i would push there. but what's important is you don't just talk to him, you talk to those around him to find out if what he's telling you is truthful. >> all right. thank you so much, barbara. thank you, frank. we greatly appreciate you being with us. still...

People at the white house. it's very simple. if you're looking for the truth and not looking for a rubber stamp then you ask people who are trained to do this, to go out there and do their investigation. i would be happy to have the time extended. i don't think there should be a time limit on finding the truth. if you want to stick with the time limit that's fine but let the fbi decide who they will interview. >> let's hope that yef flake, lisa murkowski and susan collins heard that because it certainly makes a lot of set. matt miller thanks so much. coming up next two of our favorite reporter...

Which is what they would like to do. >> the fbi is going to be getting a letter from senator feinstein today who is the ranking member of the senate judiciary committee to director wray and be asking him about the scope of the investigation. let's hope that, again, the fbi is going to be allowed to do what they need to do. john heilemann i want to ask you the question that i asked00 hunt. if we move forward no shocking revelations come out, do we see flake, murkowski, collins and manchin end up voting for brett kavanaugh? >> well, look, first of all jeff flake has said publicly over this weeke...