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studied active shooters from i believe 2008 to 2013 no sorry 2000 to 2013. i think you studied 160 of them. what can you glean from the facts we know at this hour about this one. boy i don't know. this is a tough panel you've got tonight. so they're on fire. so i have to be careful what i say. but they you know what we what we've learned so far. is that the that we have exactly what we see a lot of situations exactly what occurs in a lot of situations. you've got an individual who has some real or perceived grievance and they formulate this plan and they buy the equipment. they need ...

former federal prosecutor paul krieger is here. former senate candidate joe pinyon, former secret service agent jonathan wackrow, and joining us is cnn's joanie o'sullivan. who as we far as we know, is not form or anything, um okay, guys, great to have you all here. jonathan tell us about secret service and what? how they're preparing tonight and how they can possibly be everywhere and cover this unprecedented event. tomorrow we'll listen to secret service tomorrow plays an interesting role. it's not what we typically see them playing. they're not playing the lead role. the nypd is t...

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