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What we did on health care and the rest. it wasn't abo saying, as the president does, this is what i want, vote on it, yesr no. we built it from our caucus and our consensus and then we go forward in a unified way and have the votes. now, one of the things i would say, because i think it's instructive about one comparison or another, when we did the affordable care act, this was major. we're talking social security, medicare, medicaid, the affordable care act. pillars of economic and health security for our nation. 20 million people getting health care access, but not only that, 125 or 30 mill...

And puts on notice people like karzai who has not been a helpful partner in saying we need to train afghan troops to do the job for the afghan people. >> yesr no, all the way down, will the july 2011 deadline be hard or soft? >> impossible to say. >> soft, i think it will be -- >> already making it clear, soft i think. >> bill. >> soft. >> as you know we take a break at this time of the show, when we come back the troublesome job figures, what can washington do, if anything to put america back to work, our panel will have answers when we come back.