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Hellish treatment of detainees there. he joins me now. brandon, when you hear the president talk about the morality of not releasing this picture and it is not what america does, and what is your take being at guantanamo and watching and witnessing outrageous stuff being carried out in america's name? >> well, i can understand him not releasing the photo, but at the same time i think that the victims of the 9/11 families should have the opportunity if possible to view the photos in a confidential or secret way if they can. >> but, in relation to what you witnessed, i mean, you saw, i would arg...

Confidential or secret way if they can. >> but, in relation to what you witnessed, i mean, you saw, i would argue from what i have read of your testimony before flagrant abuses of the geneva convention and of justice, did yont u? >> yes. when i was at guantanamo, i saw a lot of abuse that took place at the hands of the internal reaction force team there at guantanamo bay in the early days. there was an incident that happened on bravo block in which a detainee, the interaction action force team opened up the cell and took him down and beat him up and hog tied him and left him there. he had to b...