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Getting rid of private insurance and in a campaign came out not once but twice saying that's part of the conversation. maybe she is maybe she isn't. they corrected it the first time. again at debate. raise your hand. up goes the senators hand. why? if that's not her position. >> i listened to that. very carefully. it said that the moderator said if you're for getting rid of your private insurance for medicare for all. i think that was a fair mistake to make. i think she's been very consistent. she believes there should be the opportunity for supplemental private insurance and that's a conversa...

The red cross has been dealing with in situations of crisis. for so long. and it's something they should be able to handle with our help. >> hopefully that's the conversation that happens. we'll stay on this. we're happy to reward progress. even part of a process. we'll come back. now, kamala harris. she pops in the in yonumbers af the debate. the logical argument she took a bite out of biden and very effective. she got the pop. will it be sustainable? your response. >> i think that the more people hear from senator harris the more that they'll like her. and frankly this is something i thought...

Last month we had him at 24%. if you're talking about a state where you can really see the decline in sanders numbers. in iowa state where he got 50% of the vote last time. he's at 9%. and buttigieg dropped down to 6%. this is a really bad poll for sanders and buttigieg. decent for warren. good for harris and biden is holding his own. >> sanders people are scratching their heads. i don't get it. he did fine in the debate. biden got beat up. >> the fact of the matter. take a look at this nationally. this is a key point. i divided this over all. what we see is sanders only 13% again in fourth pl...

Predictive as they are suggest i of a moment of time. former vice president biden is on top. after that debate he got beat down and senators harris and warren were the beneficiaries. what's more. senator sanders the man who once held steady at sec place. barely lost to clinton in the primary. he's going down. what changed? the wizard of odds with the insight. let's look at the iowa numbers. the national poll is where biden and harris. what's the story? >> the story is a few things. kamala harris jumped up to 16% in the state of iowa. this is not necessarily the type of state she would do well ...

This a key difference between 2016 and this cycle. you have a lot of competition in the liberal camp. >> the two narratives. one, harris and warren are eating sanders lunch. the second biden is human. >> very human. >> and he'll be tested and he has to be on his game. we haven't seen that. >> it's not a big surprise that he's trailing here among liberals. a key difference before the debate he was holding his own where he wasn't do that well. he's losing ground there. and the only reason is because of moderate conservative. >> the idea of biden vs. the reality will be the discrepancy. if he sta...