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There was some kind of reaction and explosion inside the vehicle. somed seeing a flame. still didn't go the damage intended. tragedy was averted last night. but the investigation now goes on. this is video from last night. the nissan pathfinder as several investigators check it out last night. let bring in a security consul tapt form consulta consultant. thank you for hopping on and lending your expertise. two propane tanks, clocks, electrical wires, consumer grade fireworks, your immediate reaction was what? >> well, good morning, tnl. my immediate reaction was that this is a newbie. somebody...

So, yes, a lot of danger there. a lot of people could have been hurt. the timing of this on an adjacent street. then a police call comes in. mcmcveigh had about four minutes before he left the area. although it's a newbie, this person appreciated the fact that there was an opportunity to escape in the ensuing confusion and panic. so i'm not trying to slow this person's intent. dangerous, yes. materials dangerous? yes. the mechanical application, he'll improve upon that. or she'll improve upon that.

One out of three terrorists fail to function when newbies put them together. that makes me think it's somebody new to this. also they did not conduct their rehearsal. timothy mcveigh rehearsed to make sure it worked. we're sealing with somebody who is knew to this. however, they will learn from their mistakes. it's now a race of time before they perfect their device. >> this newbie as you affecti affectionally put it for this alleged or assumed terrorist of some kind, you say a newbie. did they have for the most parent the components and the construction right? >> there can be a lot of damage ...