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Everybody wants this until you tell them they're going to have their taxes raises in order to pay for it. that's number one. again, i go back to obamacare. is this your way of saying obamacare is a failure? >> no. this is our way of saying that in the course of defending obamacare, because it was such a leap forward, we're also very aware of how stressful health care remains. if you caulk to citizens, blue collar citizens, hey, am i eligible for medicaid in oregon? the oregon health plan? if i earn more i have to get off, go to an exchange? on that exchange do that in the middle of the year? w...

>> does it send a message? >> early on in the admin strarks he was afraid to use the word "terrorism." they were manmade events. we had the attorney general talking about treating them as criminals. there's been an effort from the administration to try to stay away from that term and frankly if you caulk to stevens' family and the other three families, they're deceased and we can play the rhetorical plan, it's pretty clear. the libyan official, boots on the ground, said it was a terrorist act. they don't normally show up with rpgs and grenades and other things if it's going to be a peaceful de...