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People are in a company but he can't indict anybody. he's very, very valuable. he's been there 35 years, but he can refer to prosecutors. he referred comey for prosecution once. and since the prosecutor the first time, you don't refer for prosecute mission, but i think bill barr gave him a pass. i don't think he gets a second pass. >> laura: i'm skeptical. i'm skeptical about what horowitz. >> how can incredibly stand up in court and processed someone for perjury if you don't process him for perjury. you lose all credibility. >> laura: bernie thank you for being here in d.c. former west wing, ...

Horowitz --y >> how can incredibly stand up in court and prosecute someone for perjury if you don't process him for perjury. you lose all credibility. >> laura: rudy, thank you for being here in d.c. former west wing, larry o'donnell teasedos a big story. >> the single source close to -- has told me that the trump, donald trump's loan documents there show that he hasce co-signers, that is how he was able to obtain those laws. and that the co-signers are russian oligarchs. >> what? really? >> even she doesn't believe it. >> laura: even rachel is like dude, i know you need the ratings but even t...